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Your agreement expired. What actually happens

When a collective agreement expires the old terms keep applying, so your pay does not change on the expiry date. The new agreement is normally backdated, which means a lump sum of retroactive pay and a higher base rate later.

A lot of the pay grids on this site are marked expired, and that surprises people. It sounds like something has lapsed. Nothing has. An expired agreement is the normal state for police and fire in Ontario, and it changes nothing about what you get paid this Friday.

The old terms keep applying

Once notice to bargain has been given, the terms of the expired agreement continue to apply while a new one is negotiated. Your rate, your premiums and your progression all stay exactly as they were. That is why the figures on an expired grid here are still the right figures for today: they are what is on your stub.

Police and firefighters do not strike, they arbitrate

For most workers the freeze ends once the union is in a legal strike position. Police and firefighters never get there, because they are outside the ordinary strike framework and their rounds are settled by binding interest arbitration instead. That is also why these rounds run long. One to three years past expiry is ordinary, not a sign anything has gone wrong.

The award is normally backdated

When the new agreement or the arbitration award finally lands, the increases are usually retroactive to the day after the old one expired. Two things arrive at once: a lump sum covering the gap, and a new higher base rate going forward.

Why a lender treats those two halves differently

What to do about it

If your round is in arbitration and you are buying or renewing, say so early. It changes which lender the file goes to and sometimes it is worth waiting a few weeks for the award and the employer letter that follows it. If you have already had a retro payment, keep the statement, because it is the cleanest proof of the new rate.

If your grid on this site is marked expired and you want to know where your round actually stands, ask us. We check the filings.

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Your next useful step

Bring the employer, agreement and recent pay. We will work from the document instead of guessing at the income.

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Jeff and Emily Mudrick

Mudrick Mortgages, BRX Mortgage Inc.
Newmarket, Ontario. Serving Ontario.

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